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Abrogate the EU cookie laws

the directive that requires websites to get consent before dropping cookies on a user's device should be abrogated – or at very least heavily updated.

The ePrivacy Directive (ePD) has literally destroyed the web.

If it is politically impossible to abrogate it, we should change the mechanism – it should ask the suppliers of browsers to provide the users who want to micromanage their cookies a tab on the browser setting to do all the micromanaging they want.

For all normal users the cookies should always be automatically set to “allow all cookies”. No site should ever have to display a cookie banner. No penalty or fine should be imposed to websites due their cookie configurations.

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  • Indigo Milkshake

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    Dec 15, 2024

    I do agree, but the warning are also there for GDPR reasons so that needs to be update too. It could easily be a standard HTML tag that it is all done with, so that non-compliant browsers show the message, but others send the preferences in the headers so it does not need to for most people.
    As much as the EU rule is annoying it shouldn’t be up to them to create such systems though
 I guess with W3C and Google being america focussed then they just haven’t bothered. Which I guess brings us round to what the point of eu/acc is about that there isn’t such big names in the EU that would care!

    • Crimson Island

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      Feb 8, 2025

      I agree preferences about policy should be asked by the browser only once, and maybe a setting per website. Then these preferences should be shared to websites using a W3C standard.

  • Amethyst Candy

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    Dec 15, 2024

    The cookie banners are not simply for collecting cookies, they are for collecting personally identifiable information. You don’t need a cookie banner if you’re not collecting data you’re not supposed to be collecting.

    You are allowed to collect cookies without consent if they are purely functional, or are in your legitimate interests and are not used for tracking.

    Yes, browsers could include an option to set your cookie preferences globally so websites don’t have to ask you every time, but this option will be opt-out by default, or at least encouraged to opt-out, which advertisers will push against.

  • Indigo Peacock

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    Dec 15, 2024

    Yes please! This is a complete waste of time and energy, it’s not effective at all!

  • Crimson Island

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    Dec 16, 2024

    If we could only have one magic bullet, would it be really this one? Cookie banners are indeed annoying but I don’t see that GDPR and cookie banners are the great hinderance to growth.

    • Gold Orbit

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      Feb 19, 2025

      “The costs of complying with GDPR, for example, are estimated to have reduced profits for small European tech firms by up to 12 per cent.“ - Draghi on the FT

      https://www.ft.com/content/13a830ce-071a-477f-864c-e499ce9e6065


      If true that’s a 12% tax on startups.

    • Gold Orbit

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      Feb 21, 2025

      “After talking to an AI startup from Europe in the current YC batch, it's clear that the GDPR conflicts with AI in an unforeseen way that will significantly harm European AI companies.“

      https://x.com/paulg/status/1892719419769713043

  • Azure Tamarin

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    Dec 15, 2024

    This one is pragmatic , low hanging fruit . love it

  • Emerald Alligator

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    Dec 15, 2024

    For the love of god, let’s do this.

    Our Google ads revenue tanked 40% after implementing cookies. So we put it reverted it a few days later. Google rep said that they’ve seen examples of it dropping even more, and then usually recovering mostly weeks later. Are we supposed to just deal with that? Yeah just take many €€€ of losses for a few weeks, it will be fine. The fine is probably less expensive than that.

  • Jade Petal

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    Dec 15, 2024

    Much more useful than cookie banners would be a standardized privacy ‘nutrition label’ (like the Apple App Store) that’s browser readable, i.e. metadata that browsers could read & display similar to how they display SSL certs

  • Cyan River

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    Dec 15, 2024

    I probably agree with deleting this legislation.
    However it is worth noting that many times developers are affected by this unnecessarily.

    A website only has to declare that it uses cookies if users’ session state is kept on the server.

    However, that is usually not desirable and is even incorrect if you follow REST as originally defined by Roy Fielding.

    It is part of the Stateless constraint of REST:

    > Session state is therefore kept entirely on the client.

    https://ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/rest_arch_style.htm#sec_5_1_3

    Instead keep the session on the client. Use something like JWT to carry the session state (username, roles/permissions, etc.).

  • Indigo Straw

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    Dec 15, 2024

    The browser privacy settings are completely sufficient, no need for website based policies

  • Indigo Peacock

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    Dec 16, 2024

    Making it mandatory to give me access to my data if I want to modify it, delete it, etc. Yes. But get rid of those damn popups.